tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834234576639473297.post7823985215943582119..comments2024-02-15T10:49:30.829-08:00Comments on mil gracias: Unholy fashions invade Quaker circlesNancy Thomashttp://www.blogger.com/profile/12660294694426043259noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834234576639473297.post-24538351937412278002014-10-21T21:46:16.342-07:002014-10-21T21:46:16.342-07:00I am sorry for the sorrow your family is experienc...I am sorry for the sorrow your family is experiencing right now. May God's peace be with you.<br />I was glad to read this. To introduce another dilemma, I try to only purchase clothing from countries where the people who make the clothing are treated well even if it means paying more while also dressing practically and somewhat plainly. So here I sit in my quandary dressed in a shirt made in the US that is machine washable but with glitter on it. Yet the whole point is to not worry about my clothing and be open and ready to do what God would have me do. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834234576639473297.post-68088985236702991502014-10-18T10:28:40.086-07:002014-10-18T10:28:40.086-07:00Yes, we grieve...the memories, the joys and sorrow...Yes, we grieve...the memories, the joys and sorrows, fulfilled and unfulfilled longings, victories and defeats, strengths and weaknesses, unspoken and misspoken, kindnesses and hurts...all come back and remind us of our own humanity. May you celebrate and grieve together and thereby become wiser and more prepared for the next steps in your lives as well. I pray this for myself too. Love to you and Hal. MaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834234576639473297.post-25235847892450922382014-10-16T04:01:03.775-07:002014-10-16T04:01:03.775-07:00Why would you be "curious" to hear that ...Why would you be "curious" to hear that Friends should dress simply and modestly?<br /><br />A trip to the Mall (which I rarely visit) would be "very revealing" concerning how men and women could dress more modestly. I would expect that men are already expected to wear shirts and pants of some description. But women are allowed to expose their breasts in very immodest ways. At Home Depot I needed to reposition myself repeatedly to keep the cash register apparatus between me and the clerk's overexposed breasts.Bill Rushbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00579099372065932809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834234576639473297.post-85737209586814134912014-10-14T17:02:06.305-07:002014-10-14T17:02:06.305-07:00I love this conversation! It helps me gain perspec...I love this conversation! It helps me gain perspective. I agree that standards of dress need to pertain to both sexes, but somehow women's attire seems to draw more attention. And, yes, it makes sense that the biblical admonitions apply more to costly apparel than anything else. And, yes, we were in Westfield with Central Yearly Meeting. Today we traveled to Winchester and interviewed two delightful older women with this group, one who grew up in Bolivia as the daughter of some of the founding missionaries, and the other who served as a single missionary in the same field. What a richness of memory they shared, and what a sense of a lives well-lived. The oldest, Imogene, at 93, couldn't recall a few details, but other than that she was totally with us. And she's still driving. Actually, I don't think what we were wearing ever entered into our fellowship (and I was back to pants today!).<br /><br />A note for those who read my last blog: We just got a phone call from our sister-in-law in Oregon. Hal's dad died about an hour ago. A good number of his children (and he had nine) and grandchildren were there, singing his favorite hymn, "Victory in Jesus." We know he's beyond suffering now, entering into the joy of the Lord. But we grieve.Nancy Thomashttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10499875245081028619noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834234576639473297.post-6560723490176190302014-10-14T11:52:56.544-07:002014-10-14T11:52:56.544-07:00Hello, Nancy! It sounds as if you are visiting th...Hello, Nancy! It sounds as if you are visiting the Central Yearly Meeting Friends at Westfield IN. They are conservative but, technically, not Conservative Friends in the denominational sense.<br />There was once a Conservative meeting at Westfield, but it died out decades ago.<br />I hope you enjoy your visit, and don't get too freaked out over issue of attire!<br />Bill RushbyBill Rushbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00579099372065932809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834234576639473297.post-73309070786837387392014-10-14T06:27:09.216-07:002014-10-14T06:27:09.216-07:00And yet...And yet...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834234576639473297.post-18053327437456860202014-10-13T20:04:38.607-07:002014-10-13T20:04:38.607-07:00I know some brands of Christianity interpret Paul ...I know some brands of Christianity interpret Paul writing about dressing modestly to mean "women need to cover their $bodypart." I'm pretty sure he means avoiding costly styles, though. After all, his examples of "immodest" for women are gold and jewels (clearly pricey) and braids (which, ok, there are simple ones you can do on yourself, but I suspect he's talking more about the kind of person who has a servant to do her hair each day). And Jesus has this tendency to go on about getting rid of your riches, meanwhile he hung out with prostitutes. If you look at the rest of the New Testament, "don't be wealthy and then go around flaunting it" is pretty high up there.<br /><br />So, that's how I interpret dressing modestly, and it works regardless of gender. If your outfit has a designer's name written across the front of the shirt, that's not modest; it's kind of pretentious. Whether that's a man with designer jeans or a woman with a Louis Vuitton purse, same thing.Mackenziehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03695808411116664337noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834234576639473297.post-31419604073507178562014-10-13T19:12:40.985-07:002014-10-13T19:12:40.985-07:00Curious to hear that Quakers's dress should be...Curious to hear that Quakers's dress should be concerned with simplicity and modesty. "Modesty" I wonder if that refers only to women? And what would men wear that is "modest". As a Quaker and a feminist, I must challenge any concept that is applied differentially to males than females.Ramonanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4834234576639473297.post-53350590552957026282014-10-13T18:59:56.889-07:002014-10-13T18:59:56.889-07:00What, no comments? I think it's brilliant, fun...What, no comments? I think it's brilliant, funny, clever and even partly insightful. It's late and I have nothing of equal caliber to say in response but I just had to let you know I need for you to keep on writing stuff like this. I'm mentally healthier because of you. Thanks and love, MaryAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com